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Re: is the CSS to low?
« Reply #60 on: Jul 08, 2010, 20:14:39 »
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Ok, what is the 'Congu rule of observation' when it's at home?
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Re: is the CSS to low?
« Reply #61 on: Jul 08, 2010, 20:28:56 »
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Ok, what is the 'Congu rule of observation' when it's at home?

Its what is known as "General Play"

These people are f*****g muppets if they think that you can cut someone "under observation" on the basis of a single card.

Now....if you were a 20 'capper who say put in 4 or 5 cards that consistently showed you shooting say 3-5 shots below your handicap, it may well be possible that the "exact calculations" of the handicap system might only take you down to a handicap of say 18.

Now...under "observation" a Handicap Sec could quite easily suggest that perhaps a further cut of 1 shot might be in order as the handicap system might not be keeping up with your rate of improvement.

But such "observation" should never be off a single card.

This is one of the fallings out I had recently with the owner of my club who suggested that we could do what we wanted in terms of how we decided to apply the handicapping system.

I was up the club this evening handing back a couple of trophies and someone told me that the club had allready reversed the decision that the committee made (on my advice) to apply adjustments to scores in mixed competitions to reflect the differring difficulty of the mens course and the ladies course as reflected in the SSS.
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Re: is the CSS to low?
« Reply #62 on: Jul 08, 2010, 20:52:24 »
His reponse to me saying I didnt want to use them and suggesting a refund was.....

Hi Scott,

Kate has sent to me a scanned copy of your scorecard.  A good round!!

I have also taken the opportunity of speaking with a Congu specialist to check that my interpretations are correct.

To clarify – my CONGU specialist pointed out a couple of things:
1)   Any club or organisation has at its discretion whether to allow stableford scores to be converted to medal score (he suggested that this was unwise)
2)   The latest Congu thinking around adjusting scores which are > 3 over par to net or gross is currently under review (again!)
3)   He suggested that whether net or gross is used was irrelevant since the margin of error is so small that it is arbitrary

Reviewing your scorecard:

Your card shows a gross score of 86 playing of a 24 handicap = net score of 62 which is 5 below the SSS of 67
As a minimum your handicap would be adjusted by 24 - 5 x 0.4 = 22.0 (new playing h’cap 22)
Applying a gross double bogey, yields 24 – 6 x 0.4 = 21.6 (new playing h’cap 22)

Again speaking to my Congu specialist, he recommends the Congu rule of observation should in this case be applied to adjust the handicap further as clearly you are a far better player than a 22 h’cap.

Strictly speaking you are capable of playing to a 19 handicap, in my opinion, applying the official Congu observation rule, I would recommend a handicap adjustment to 20.

I trust this clarifies.

Regards . . Gary

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I was in the middle of writing a long reply explaining why he was wrong and what link you should send him to put him in his place, but then I decided that you should just send him this instead:


Dear Gary

Thanks for your reply.

After careful consideration I have decided that moving forward I will write the numbers 0.1 to 2.0 on 20 ping pong balls and place them in a carrier bag.  I will then ask my 3 year old daughter to pick a ball at random from the bag and reduce/ increase my HC by whatever number is written on that ball.  Whether or not I shall apply a reduction or increase shall depend on what the lead singer of Black Lace (CONGA expert) thinks I should do.

I realise that this is not a perfect system, and statistics indicate that this method of handicap assessment yields a possible error rate of <99%, but it's probably still more accurate and £19 cheaper than what you bunch of idiots are telling me.

Yours

Scott W
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Re: is the CSS to low?
« Reply #63 on: Jul 08, 2010, 21:00:48 »
I was in the middle of writing a long reply explaining why he was wrong and what link you should send him to put him in his place, but then I decided that you should just send him this instead:


Dear Gary

Thanks for your reply.

After careful consideration I have decided that moving forward I will write the numbers 0.1 to 2.0 on 20 ping pong balls and place them in a carrier bag.  I will then ask my 3 year old daughter to pick a ball at random from the bag and reduce/ increase my HC by whatever number is written on that ball.  Whether or not I shall apply a reduction or increase shall depend on what the lead singer of Black Lace (CONGA expert) thinks I should do.

I realise that this is not a perfect system, and statistics indicate that this method of handicap assessment yields a possible error rate of <99%, but it's probably still more accurate and £19 cheaper than what you bunch of idiots are telling me.

Yours

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Re: is the CSS to low?
« Reply #64 on: Jul 08, 2010, 21:08:12 »
One question though....before you blow this mob into the water hazard....

this Kate bird who you send your cards to...

is she fit?????
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Re: is the CSS to low?
« Reply #65 on: Jul 08, 2010, 21:10:32 »
I was in the middle of writing a long reply explaining why he was wrong and what link you should send him to put him in his place, but then I decided that you should just send him this instead:


Dear Gary

Thanks for your reply.

After careful consideration I have decided that moving forward I will write the numbers 0.1 to 2.0 on 20 ping pong balls and place them in a carrier bag.  I will then ask my 3 year old daughter to pick a ball at random from the bag and reduce/ increase my HC by whatever number is written on that ball.  Whether or not I shall apply a reduction or increase shall depend on what the lead singer of Black Lace (CONGA expert) thinks I should do.

I realise that this is not a perfect system, and statistics indicate that this method of handicap assessment yields a possible error rate of <99%, but it's probably still more accurate and £19 cheaper than what you bunch of idiots are telling me.

Yours

Scott W
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Re: is the CSS to low?
« Reply #66 on: Jul 08, 2010, 21:16:46 »
After careful consideration I have decided that moving forward I will write the numbers 0.1 to 2.0 on 20 ping pong balls and place them in a carrier bag.  I will then ask my 3 year old daughter to pick a ball at random from the bag and reduce/ increase my HC by whatever number is written on that ball. 

The flaw in that system is for the rare occasion he makes buffer Stu. Other than its a great plan. Except for the fact that the Black Lace lead singer died in 1995.

Brilliant post though  :lol:

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Re: is the CSS to low?
« Reply #67 on: Jul 08, 2010, 22:06:50 »
I find a turd in a parcel usually ends such an exchange of letters succinctly.

It means you have the final word, without having the final word, so they don't feel they have to respond again.

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Might create an anti-terrorist response these days I suppose, on later thought.  The headline alone might be worth the extended stay in Guantanamo with electrodes attached to the testicles.
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Re: is the CSS to low?
« Reply #68 on: Jul 08, 2010, 22:11:36 »
I find a turd in a parcel usually ends such an exchange of letters succinctly.

It means you have the final word, without having the final word, so they don't feel they have to respond again.

<edit>
Might create an anti-terrorist response these days I suppose, on later thought.  The headline alone might be worth the extended stay in Guantanamo with electrodes attached to the testicles.

On a similar theme I once threatened to send a particular Credit Card company that was popular in the 90's with sending them a Goldfish in an envelope if they continued to spam me with letters offerring me a credit card after I'd told them in no uncertain terms on several occasions to take me off their mailing list!!!!

The letters stopped!!
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Re: is the CSS to low?
« Reply #69 on: Jul 08, 2010, 22:23:32 »
On a similar theme I once threatened to send a particular Credit Card company that was popular in the 90's with sending them a Goldfish in an envelope if they continued to spam me with letters offerring me a credit card after I'd told them in no uncertain terms on several occasions to take me off their mailing list!!!!

The letters stopped!!
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