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Re: Nearest point of relief
« Reply #15 on: Sep 26, 2011, 13:14:31 »
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Re: Nearest point of relief
« Reply #16 on: Sep 26, 2011, 14:15:19 »
I think if you play from a wrong place - and don't correct it before you start the next hole it's DQ

It happened in the Welsh Open last year - someone - think it was Phil price - played from in front of the tww markers.
Holed out - and had to go back to the tee and start again - 3 off the tee

Also would have got John Daly dq'ed in Austria - if he'd teed off on the next hole
As he was going to miss the cut it wasn't really worth contimuing - so he walked off - and probably got a hefty fine as well
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Re: Nearest point of relief
« Reply #17 on: Sep 26, 2011, 14:27:03 »
I think if you play from a wrong place - and don't correct it before you start the next hole it's DQ
It happened in the Welsh Open last year - someone - think it was Phil price - played from in front of the tww markers.
Holed out - and had to go back to the tee and start again - 3 off the tee

Also would have got John Daly dq'ed in Austria - if he'd teed off on the next hole
As he was going to miss the cut it wasn't really worth contimuing - so he walked off - and probably got a hefty fine as well

Only if you think youve committed a serious breach and dont correct it.

Rule 20-7 (ball played from wrong place)

c. Stroke Play
If a competitor makes a stroke from a wrong place, he incurs a penalty of
two strokes under the applicable Rule. He must play out the hole with the
ball played from the wrong place, without correcting his error, provided he
has not committed a serious breach (see Note 1).
If a competitor becomes aware that he has played from a wrong place and
believes that he may have committed a serious breach, he must, before
making a stroke on the next teeing ground, play out the hole with a second
ball played in accordance with the Rules. If the hole being played is the last
hole of the round, he must declare, before leaving the putting green, that he
will play out the hole with a second ball played in accordance with the
Rules.
If the competitor has played a second ball, he must report the facts to the
Committee before returning his score card; if he fails to do so,
he is disqualified.The Committee must determine whether the competitor
has committed a serious breach of the applicable Rule. If he has, the score
with the second ball counts and the competitor must add two penalty
strokes to his score with that ball. If the competitor has committed a serious
breach and has failed to correct it as outlined above, he is disqualified.
Note 1: A competitor is deemed to have committed a serious breach of
the applicable Rule if the Committee considers he has gained a significant
advantage as a result of playing from a wrong place.
Note 2: If a competitor plays a second ball under Rule 20-7c and it is
ruled not to count, strokes made with that ball and penalty strokes incurred
solely by playing that ball are disregarded. If the second ball is ruled to
count, the stroke made from the wrong place and any strokes subsequently
taken with the original ball including penalty strokes incurred solely by
playing that ball are disregarded.
Note 3: If a player incurs a penalty for making a stroke from a wrong
place, there is no additional penalty for substituting a ball when not
permitted.
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Re: Nearest point of relief
« Reply #18 on: Sep 26, 2011, 14:50:06 »
Only if you think youve committed a serious breach and dont correct it.

So would an example of that be:

1.  A player takes free relief from a cart path but takes NPR from the wrong side of the path.  Both sides are semi rough and he gains no advantage as a result of dropping on the wrong side.

2.  A player takes free relief from a cart path but takes NPR from the wrong side of the path.  Dropping on the correct side of the path would see him having to drop in thick gorse bushes that line the path, whereas the incorrect side was semi rough.

Presumably 1 would be just a 2 shot penalty, whereas 2 would be a serious breach and DQ?

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Re: Nearest point of relief
« Reply #19 on: Sep 26, 2011, 15:14:55 »
So would an example of that be:

1.  A player takes free relief from a cart path but takes NPR from the wrong side of the path.  Both sides are semi rough and he gains no advantage as a result of dropping on the wrong side.

2.  A player takes free relief from a cart path but takes NPR from the wrong side of the path.  Dropping on the correct side of the path would see him having to drop in thick gorse bushes that line the path, whereas the incorrect side was semi rough.

Presumably 1 would be just a 2 shot penalty, whereas 2 would be a serious breach and DQ?

See Note 1 in my post about what constitutes a serious breach.

I'd agree with your assessment.
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Re: Nearest point of relief
« Reply #20 on: Sep 26, 2011, 21:46:44 »
I don't think 2 clubs would have got him out of the bush either  :banghead:

I take it this was TP? Who the hell else has clubs that are less than 18" long?  :chuckle:
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Re: Nearest point of relief
« Reply #21 on: Sep 26, 2011, 21:52:50 »
I take it this was TP? Who the hell else has clubs that are less than 18" long?  :chuckle:

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