Conceded putt - matchplay etc.

[Tin Pot]

As I started it, here's a new thread for it to keep the ADVICE thread clean.

Scenario:

Matchplay

Both players on the green

Opponent concedes hole

You putt out


War breaks out

[golf_bhoy]

What Rule has been broken?

[Stu-Pid]

Why?

Once the hole is conceeded the hole is over and neither player can incur a penalty on that hole.  Practice putts (speed of play constraints allowing) are allowed, so either player would be entitled to putt after the hole has been conceeded.

However, if a putt has been conceeded and the other player is still in the hole then the hole is not finished and the ball must be picked up.  You cannot refuse a concession and cannot practice while the hole is still being played.

[Longshot]

Why?

Once the hole is conceeded the hole is over and neither player can incur a penalty on that hole.  Practice putts (speed of play constraints allowing) are allowed, so either player would be entitled to putt after the hole has been conceeded.

However, if a putt has been conceeded and the other player is still in the hole then the hole is not finished and the ball must be picked up.  You cannot refuse a concession and cannot practice while the hole is still being played.

Absolutely.

[ajmooseman]

Yup with Stu here ...I think..your opponet concedes your putt, you pick your ball up. Not until the hole is finished do you practice putt.

Why would you want to puut out, Mind coach wise you should pick up walk off knowing that youv'e made that putt, practice and miss and you show your opponet that your not great from this distance and your mind then also starts to think like wise...but that's a differnet thread

[Tin Pot]

What Rule has been broken?

You posted this on the other thread:


"Putting out after a hole is conceded is OK.  After a putt is conceded it's practice during the play of a hole and you lose that hole."

What Rule do you think has been broken?

[golf_bhoy]

None.

You posted this on the other thread:


"Putting out after a hole is conceded is OK.  After a putt is conceded it's practice during the play of a hole and you lose that hole."

What Rule do you think has been broken?

Yeah, then I noticed you'd started another thread.  No Rule has been broken.

[Tin Pot]

However, if a putt has been conceeded and the other player is still in the hole then the hole is not finished...

Interesting, what makes you think that the hole is still being played after it has been conceded?

[Gogs Guy]

Interesting, what makes you think that the hole is still being played after it has been conceded?

if a putt is conceded it doesn't mean the hole is over the the opponent could still have a putt left.

[Longshot]

Interesting, what makes you think that the hole is still being played after it has been conceded?

I thought he said the putt was conceded, not the hole.

[Stu-Pid]

You posted this on the other thread:

"Putting out after a hole is conceded is OK.  After a putt is conceded it's practice during the play of a hole and you lose that hole."

What Rule do you think has been broken?

Actually, no rule has been broken, just a breach of ettiquette. 

[Stu-Pid]

Interesting, what makes you think that the hole is still being played after it has been conceded?

I was thinking of a 4BBB match.  In 4BBB match you cannot putt after a concession as it may assist your partner who is still in the hole.  If you did putt out after a concession then your partner would be disqualified from the hole.

In single matchplay there is no penalty for putting after a concession (practicing) but it is a breach of ettiquette if your opponent is still in the hole.

[True Blue]

The committee may prohibit, during competition, practice on or near the putting green of the hole last played - just to muddy the waters!

[Foxholer]

I thought he said the putt was conceded, not the hole.

Read TP's first post in this thread. It stated 'Hole' conceded. and he was referring to Singles matches.

Once hole conceded then, depending upon whether committee allows it or not, practice putt is OK. 

Slightly different scenario if 'putt' conceded. Have to wait until hole finished (which may be opponent's putt) before 'practice' as above. Effectively the same in 4BBB - conceded putt must not be putted out while hole is in progress.

In both cases, typical 'practice' would be the long putt that left the gimmee or result before putt/hole conceded.

Ross

[golf_bhoy]

Actually, no rule has been broken, just a breach of ettiquette. 

No, not even that.

In single matchplay there is no penalty for putting after a concession (practicing) but it is a breach of ettiquette if your opponent is still in the hole.

No; it's loss of hole for practicing during the play of a hole if your opponent is still in the hole,i.e. the hole has not been completed (Rule 7-2).