comments on the Guide to Handicapping thread

[Foxholer]

Folks,

Please review and make comments about that doc.

I tried to 'keep it simple' but that's very difficult. If you can think of a better way to cover any part, feel free to provide an update - either as post here or PM.

I have already thought of a couple of relevant areas I've missed - Responsibility about entering scores and specifying handicap for example.

Ross

[Tin Pot]

Try embolbening subheadings and use a bit formatting to make it easier on the eye.  There's quite a lot of text there so people need these cues to keep focus.

[Foxholer]

Yeah, Willdo,

Being lazy there.

Was going to do it once some 'proper' updates reqd.

Ross

[Longshot]

Try embolbening subheadings

...and if you can't embolben them, try embiggening them instead

[True Blue]

Ross great work but can you put into simpletons english for me how a cut works as I am still not too sure. Thanks.

[Foxholer]

Ross great work but can you put into simpletons english for me how a cut works as I am still not too sure. Thanks.

Doh

Just had a bit of 'flash'.

A separate Post covering that one.

That way, the 'compressed' version that is in the 'header' and more detail is in later posts?

What exactly do you mean by 'how a cut works'? How it's calculated? Or are you talking about GPAs.

Ross

[True Blue]

Doh

Just had a bit of 'flash'.

A separate Post covering that one.

That way, the 'compressed' version that is in the 'header' and more detail is in later posts?

What exactly do you mean by 'how a cut works'? How it's calculated? Or are you talking about GPAs.

Ross

How it is actually calculated.

[Sam the Eagle]

Folks,

Please review and make comments about that doc.

that doc? what doc?

 >:(

[Foxholer]

that doc? what doc?

 >:(

OK Post. It was a Doc when I was creating it (Word).

Ross

[Sam the Eagle]

OK Post. It was a Doc when I was creating it (Word).

Ross

which? where?

[MisterS3]

which? where?

Ross

Add a link to the thread you want to discuss at the top of this thread....

[golf_bhoy]

Initial allocation will be from the lowest of the 3 cards AFTER "STABLEFORD" ADJUSTMENT.

Playing handicap is NOT an integer from the "rounded up" of your exact handicap.  Exact handicap 14.5 -> playing 15; 14.4 = 14.

The amount of cut cannot be described using the formula you supply ('Diff' * Category * 0.1) for a player being cut across Category boundaries.

You haven't defined 'Diff' in the next paragraph.

Your description of CSS is too simplistic and doesn't reference the necessary CONGU lookup tables.

As is the statement regarding Par and SSS.

Supplementary Score process has not been "introduced"; it's been authorised for those that wish
to implement it (voluntarily).

You cannot GPA a player from Cat 1 into Cat 2.

Rule (Clause) 19 is now 23.  You won't get the UHS book online these days; they're not posting the updated version.  Bit of a bugger for those of you who don't have a copy at home, like I do.

For a better and more accurate  "Beginner's Guide" use the www.handicapmaster.org site, and obviously www.congu.com .  Both have a decent range of FAQ's that matches pretty much what I see posted on golf forums.

[Foxholer]

Initial allocation will be from the lowest of the 3 cards AFTER "STABLEFORD" ADJUSTMENT.

Playing handicap is NOT an integer from the "rounded up" of your exact handicap.  Exact handicap 14.5 -> playing 15; 14.4 = 14.

That's my understanding of 'rounding up' but I'll change it to be clearer.

The amount of cut cannot be described using the formula you supply ('Diff' * Category * 0.1) for a player being cut across Category boundaries.

You haven't defined 'Diff' in the next paragraph.

Doh. Had intended to - and will do so

Your description of CSS is too simplistic and doesn't reference the necessary CONGU lookup tables.

Nothing factually incorrect and not necessary to explain how it's calculated, just why it's calculated.

As is the statement regarding Par and SSS.

Same as above

Supplementary Score process has not been "introduced"; it's been authorised for those that wish
to implement it (voluntarily).

Good point. Thanks

You cannot GPA a player from Cat 1 into Cat 2.

Don't think I said you could. The word 'player' will clarify.
Actually 'player' was already there - it was 'into Cat 1' that was missing.

Rule (Clause) 19 is now 23.  You won't get the UHS book online these days; they're not posting the updated version.  Bit of a bugger for those of you who don't have a copy at home, like I do.

That'll screw up a few 'chants'  I'll update. Handicapmaster still talks about Clause 19.

For a better and more accurate  "Beginner's Guide" use the www.handicapmaster.org site, and obviously www.congu.com .  Both have a decent range of FAQ's that matches pretty much what I see posted on golf forums.

I'll add those links.

Jim,

Thanks.

Responses in italics

Ross

[golf_bhoy]

Ross, my main point re "rounding up" is that it's not always up.  X.4 is rounded DOWN to playing off X; X.5 is rounded UP to X+1.

I accept your point about the CSS calculations.  Even handicapmaster doesn't explain it entirely; fortunately for those of us operating club software, all the "hard" parts and tables are in there somewhere and the computers (generally) take care of it.  No I haven't attempted to hack the code.  Yet.

GPA - no you didn't say you could but it might be worth pointing out for the likes of Keve, who fluctuates between 1 and 2.  He wouldn't suffer from being cut to 1 (might gain as it opens up more regional and national competitions), but it's not going to happen, no matter how much he wants it.

I'd also noticed that handicapmaster hasn't updated recently, and am surprised the UHS book will not be web-loaded (unless it's to raise money from those who really want a company; they're issued to clubs/HC secretaries, but it's not "1 copy each" like the Rules Books!).

There are a few administrative changes in the revised system, alongside at least two entirely "new" elements - Supplementary and 9-hole scores/competitions.  I won't go into detail here though; they're for another thread if anyone raises a question.

[Foxholer]

Post now updated from comments.

TP. How Cut works section added


Anybody!

Can someone PM me how to obtain 'the link' of a particular thread/post so I can post a reference?

Sorted!

http://forum.modsquadgolf.com/index.php?topic=2154.msg28856#msg28856

Ross