GPS rules Question

[ajmooseman]

Today see the first comp of the new season for me, and the first chance to use GPS in a comp!

So my sureshot will be clipped to my bag and ready to provide the information required (and yes club selection will off )

However how dose this affect my playing partners, ea they allowed to look at my device, are they allowed to ask me the distance???

Answer please to save embarrassment later today.

[aces_up1504]

Moose,

I am not completely sure that its legal full stop. My reading of the rule if that a system has a club selection it is illegal not matter if it is turned off or not. ( although i stand to  be corrected on it)

Would anyone be 100% be sure enough to pull you on it, i doubt it at a club comp level.


On the letting of other people use the information. I suppose it could be called coaching? Just walk up to them and let them look, much like everyone does when playing a par 3, have a little look through their bag to see which club is missing

[rangemonkey]

As far as i am aware asking for a fact i.e a yardage i totally acceptable regarding the rules.  So yes they would be able to ask what your GPS is showing, the same way as if you were the only one witha a yardage chart.

[shankboy]

Good question mooseman. Never thought of that ill ask my pro before i tee it up saturday and get disqualified 

[ajmooseman]

Moose,

I am not completely sure that its legal full stop. My reading of the rule if that a system has a club selection it is illegal not matter if it is turned off or not. ( although i stand to  be corrected on it)

Would anyone be 100% be sure enough to pull you on it, i doubt it at a club comp level.


On the letting of other people use the information. I suppose it could be called coaching? Just walk up to them and let them look, much like everyone does when playing a par 3, have a little look through their bag to see which club is missing

Don;t bloody go there again!
I happy with the eveidence I have and that club selction is turned off then I'm playing legally.


@rangemonkey  cheers I understanmd your understand your point and yes if I had a stroke saver I would let other people look.

[aces_up1504]

Don;t bloody go there again!
I happy with the eveidence I have and that club selction is turned off then I'm playing legally.

Cool, happy to be corrected!

Also nice to know you can to know you can give the information to other playing partners, as i would feel like a right Tw@t, telling them you can not have the information when playing in a comp.

[Tin Pot]

However how dose this affect my playing partners, ea they allowed to look at my device, are they allowed to ask me the distance???

Answer please to save embarrassment later today.

Decision 8-1/2

Information regarding the distance between two objects is public information and not advice. 

...It is therefore permissible for players to exchange information relating to the distance between two objects.  For example, a player may ask anyone, including his opponent, fellow-competitor or either of their caddies, the distance between his ball and the hole.

(IF GPS IS NOT ALLOWED)
Except when the Local Rule allowing the use of distance-measuring devices has been adopted (see Note to Rule 14-3), information regarding distance must not have been obtained from an artificial device used during the stipulated round.  A player who obtains distance information that he knew was measured by anyone with an artificial device during the player’s round is disqualified under Rule 14-3. (Revised)

[Stu-Pid]

Asking for, and giving, yardages is fine and completely within the rules as long as it is to/ from static points, i.e. 150 to the front of the green or 100 to carry the bunker.  It only becomes advice if you were to say "It's 150 yards to the front of the green, which should be a perfect 8 iron for you" etc.

[golf_bhoy]

Spare a thought for those like me who dislike GPS.  If we ask you NOT to provide yardages, then don't. 

I'm waiting on someone ignoring that request from me so I can raise a Decisions question with the R&A under the "serious breach of etiquette" banner ...

[ajmooseman]

Spare a thought for those like me who dislike GPS.  If we ask you NOT to provide yardages, then don't. 

I'm waiting on someone ignoring that request from me so I can raise a Decisions question with the R&A under the "serious breach of etiquette" banner ...

Yup fair point that, I can just see a few of our members shouting across the fairway "Jim it's 120 from here"


Nope mine will be clipped to the bag as normal and if anyone want to know the yardage they can come and look.

[Stu-Pid]

Spare a thought for those like me who dislike GPS.  If we ask you NOT to provide yardages, then don't. 

I'm waiting on someone ignoring that request from me so I can raise a Decisions question with the R&A under the "serious breach of etiquette" banner ...

[rangemonkey]

From the PGA of America's Website

Q: In a tournament, one player in my group had a GPS device. The Local Rule for distance measuring devices was in effect and the device was approved. Another competitor constantly went over to look at it, and at one point moved it to get a reading. Is this a breach of the Rules?
Bryan R


A: No. There is a Decision that talks about a physical act in obtaining information by removing a towel covering another player's clubs. This would be equivilent to asking for advice in breach of Rule 8-1 (Advice). However, this would not include a physical act in obtaining distance information. Distance information, including that measured by an approved device under Local Rule, is not advice.

[Keve]

When I played Eastwood a few weeks ago when using my GPS I came across a situation that I though might challenge the legality of them. Even if it was technically legal, it just didn't seem quite right to me, didn't stop me doing it though.
The situation:
At a par 3 I hit a wild hook into trees and ended up with an unplayable ball, the penalty drop was out of the question and I didn't fancy the walk back to the tee, so I decided to go back keep point in line with the flag. when I was walking back I was holding my GPS and it showed 30 yards to the centre of the green, I had huge trees to get over so I kept walking until I was at my 9 iron distance from the centre. I didn't think this was right, being able to walk back to an exact spot. Finding a distance that you're actually at I'm fine with but going to an exact spot I'm not sure of.

[Galway Stevie]

Don't see anything wrong with what you did at Eastwood. You watch the pros take a drop from hazards with the caddie working out excatly how far back they need to go to hit the shot they want.

[MisterS3]

Don't see anything wrong with what you did at Eastwood. You watch the pros take a drop from hazards with the caddie working out excatly how far back they need to go to hit the shot they want.

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