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Breaking News
« on: Dec 11, 2007, 11:22:38 »
Skycaddie and rangefinders will be allowed in ALL PGA events . 
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Re: Breaking News
« Reply #1 on: Dec 11, 2007, 11:24:01 »
Where did you see this? :)
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Re: Breaking News
« Reply #2 on: Dec 11, 2007, 11:24:27 »
I have my contacts  ::laugh: ::laugh: ::laugh:
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Re: Breaking News
« Reply #3 on: Dec 11, 2007, 11:41:55 »
Skycaddie and rangefinders will be allowed in ALL PGA events . 

But probably still not allowed at you local club because of the all old farts  :cry:
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Re: Breaking News
« Reply #4 on: Dec 11, 2007, 11:52:17 »
Skycaddie and rangefinders will be allowed in ALL PGA events . 

Do you mean Skycaddies only or any GPS device?  If it's the former then I'm guessing that the PGA have simply 'sold out' and it is little more than a sponsorship arrangement.

Don't most of the caddies on tour use range fnders rather than GPS?

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Re: Breaking News
« Reply #5 on: Dec 11, 2007, 11:53:31 »
Skycaddie and rangefinders will be allowed in ALL PGA events . 

I suppose it was inevitable that this was going to happen, but I am disappointed as it makes one of the skills of the game obsolete.

When humans are involved there is always an element of doubt about the yardage especially when the terrain has something to provide a visual distraction. Will there be any point in designing a golf hole now with a bunker 40 yards short of the green to try and put the player off?



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Re: Breaking News
« Reply #6 on: Dec 11, 2007, 12:04:27 »
Well I guess SkyCaddie will be the "official" GPS for the PGA but that doesn't stop caddies using rangefinders.

"Not the European Tour as yet, but I have been talking to a few Tour Caddies who will use it to help do their own pre Tournament measurements.

However I am sure that providing the Pros and Caddies are confident and comfortable with the measurements provided they will use them in time.

I have to say this is a big step forward, the PGA will be making the announcement very soon."


I disagree that it makes one of the skills obsolete on Tour as the caddie tells the player the exact distance anyway and the player just needs to work out wind/elevation.

He still needs to execute the shot...
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Re: Breaking News
« Reply #7 on: Dec 11, 2007, 12:20:14 »


"Not the European Tour as yet, but I have been talking to a few Tour Caddies who will use it to help do their own pre Tournament measurements.




As I understood this was the norm anyway, all practice rounds used to gain distance ect and all with the aid  of a range finder.

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Re: Breaking News
« Reply #8 on: Dec 11, 2007, 12:21:17 »
Well I guess SkyCaddie will be the "official" GPS for the PGA but that doesn't stop caddies using rangefinders.

"Not the European Tour as yet, but I have been talking to a few Tour Caddies who will use it to help do their own pre Tournament measurements.

However I am sure that providing the Pros and Caddies are confident and comfortable with the measurements provided they will use them in time.

I have to say this is a big step forward, the PGA will be making the announcement very soon."

Rob, I know that you love your Skycaddie, but don't forget that this guy is basically just a salesman, so I'd take all of this with a huge pinch of salt.  The PGA have obviously signed a deal with Skycaddie, but that doesn't make it better than other GPS devices on the market, and I think that it's a bit wrong of the PGA to endorse one particular company.  How would you feel if Ping became the "official" driver of the PGA Tour?

From what I've read about caddies, most take their readings on the practice days with Rangefinders, and they have the advantage of being more accurate than GPS.  I personally don't see this changing, unless Skycaddie start to sponsor individual players to use their devices.

On a more important note though, I can see golf club committees deciding that Skycaddies are acceptable for use in competition because the PGA says so, but Sureshot and other options aren't because 'they're not used on tour'.  Sounds like a huge can of worms to me...

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Re: Breaking News
« Reply #9 on: Dec 11, 2007, 12:27:07 »
Rob, I know that you love your Skycaddie, but don't forget that this guy is basically just a salesman, so I'd take all of this with a huge pinch of salt.  The PGA have obviously signed a deal with Skycaddie, but that doesn't make it better than other GPS devices on the market, and I think that it's a bit wrong of the PGA to endorse one particular company.  How would you feel if Ping became the "official" driver of the PGA Tour?

From what I've read about caddies, most take their readings on the practice days with Rangefinders, and they have the advantage of being more accurate than GPS.  I personally don't see this changing, unless Skycaddie start to sponsor individual players to use their devices.

On a more important note though, I can see golf club committees deciding that Skycaddies are acceptable for use in competition because the PGA says so, but Sureshot and other options aren't because 'they're not used on tour'.  Sounds like a huge can of worms to me...

Well I don't suffer fools and this news doesn't affect me anyway.

As for "How would you feel if Ping became the "official" driver of the PGA Tour?"  It wouldn't bother me in the slightest. I have a choice what clubs I use and this wouldn't influence me....

they won't be banning other devices they are just saying its the preferred one but as already stated most caddies use rangefinders at the moment so I guess they are trying to get into that market.



Courses differ on competitions....eg ours allows GPS in normal play and competitions so its up to the course to decide. Our course allows all GPS's so Sureshot etc are included.
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Re: Breaking News
« Reply #10 on: Dec 11, 2007, 12:37:14 »
As for "How would you feel if Ping became the "official" driver of the PGA Tour?"  It wouldn't bother me in the slightest. I have a choice what clubs I use and this wouldn't influence me....

I realise that, and I didn't mean that it would affect you personally, but do you think that it is ethical for the PGA Tour to promote one golf company over another?  They'd never do it with balls, drivers or irons, so why is it okay for GPS devices?

Courses differ on competitions....eg ours allows GPS in normal play and competitions so its up to the course to decide. Our course allows all GPS's so Sureshot etc are included.

I realise that every course is different, and that it is at the discretion of the committee, but there is a chance that they'd say "If Skycaddies are allowed on the PGA then we'll allow them in competitions, but not Sureshots because the PGA doesn't allow them".  The rules are already too vague and open to abuse, so this just clouds the issue even further.

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Re: Breaking News
« Reply #11 on: Dec 11, 2007, 12:38:14 »
Well I don't suffer fools...

Er, what about Tin Pot?

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Re: Breaking News
« Reply #12 on: Dec 11, 2007, 12:41:20 »
I realise that, and I didn't mean that it would affect you personally, but do you think that it is ethical for the PGA Tour to promote one golf company over another?  They'd never do it with balls, drivers or irons, so why is it okay for GPS devices?

Not my problem... ::laugh: Not sure how it will work out maybe they are a sponsor or something...

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I realise that every course is different, and that it is at the discretion of the committee, but there is a chance that they'd say "If Skycaddies are allowed on the PGA then we'll allow them in competitions, but not Sureshots because the PGA doesn't allow them".  The rules are already too vague and open to abuse, so this just clouds the issue even further.

Well that's being just being difficult....I can't see that happening...

Anything could hypothetically happen but in reality common sense will prevail unless the Club Captain is called Umpa Lumpa aka TP
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Re: Breaking News
« Reply #13 on: Dec 11, 2007, 12:41:40 »
Er, what about Tin Pot?

  :rolleyes:

Who is he?  :lol:
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Re: Breaking News
« Reply #14 on: Dec 11, 2007, 13:01:04 »
"If Skycaddies are allowed on the PGA then we'll allow them in competitions, but not Sureshots because the PGA doesn't allow them".

that's not the case though is it? My understanding was any GPS unit will be allowed.
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