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« on: Nov 09, 2020, 22:56:26 »
Pro game RIP?

https://www.golfchannel.com/news/he-hit-what-heres-what-bryson-dechambeau-hit-some-augusta-nationals-greens-last-week

Really hope that this isn’t the case and BDC doesn’t ruin Augusta National  :omg:
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Re: US Masters 2020
« Reply #1 on: Nov 10, 2020, 07:31:47 »
My view is the horse has bolted.  The USGA and R&A should have acted 20 years ago.

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Re: US Masters 2020
« Reply #2 on: Nov 10, 2020, 10:03:15 »
I'm really looking forward to the Tournament and the coverage - haven't been that interested in the PGA Tour for a while now since it returned, although I was surprised to see some, albeit sparse, galleries last week in Houston while I was channel hopping.

It'll be really interesting to see the course at this time of year, and it's going to look so different without all the crowds patrons.
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Re: US Masters 2020
« Reply #3 on: Nov 10, 2020, 16:20:10 »
To be honest what could the authorities do when the gap between the amateur game and pro game has widened so much and they are representing all golfers?...and they got royally screwed when they tried to enforce stuff like the grooves and Ping sued them...the golf ball which is the "villain" needs to be rolled back no doubt but I think the thought is the pro's wont be impacted as much as the ams if they do that
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Re: US Masters 2020
« Reply #4 on: Nov 10, 2020, 16:25:26 »
To be honest what could the authorities do when the gap between the amateur game and pro game has widened so much and they are representing all golfers?...and they got royally screwed when they tried to enforce stuff like the grooves and Ping sued them...the golf ball which is the "villain" needs to be rolled back no doubt but I think the thought is the pro's wont be impacted as much as the ams if they do that
Agree with that. I think they should have a tournament ball. Masters would be the perfect place to try it as they seem to have little space to expand further, and all the pros would still want to play it because it's the Masters.

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« Reply #5 on: Nov 10, 2020, 19:14:01 »
I read the Masters have planted more trees to combat some of the lines the bombers want to take off the tee and they’ll do more if required from their nursery on site.


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Re: US Masters 2020
« Reply #6 on: Nov 11, 2020, 10:46:00 »
I read the Masters have planted more trees to combat some of the lines the bombers want to take off the tee and they’ll do more if required from their nursery on site.


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Heard that too Gary.

However if BDC hits it onto the 14th fairway over the trees from the 13th tee (where the hole narrows/the driving zone) there aren't going to be any trees there to stop him  :thumbdown:
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Re: US Masters 2020
« Reply #7 on: Nov 11, 2020, 11:32:20 »
 This is where we need internal out of bounds as it’s a safety issue....

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Re: US Masters 2020
« Reply #8 on: Nov 11, 2020, 11:42:48 »
Change the ball if you want by Bryson will still be able to hit it further than anyone else.  I don't know how to fix it though other than similar comments re more penal rough etc.

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Re: US Masters 2020
« Reply #9 on: Nov 11, 2020, 13:01:04 »
Change the ball if you want by Bryson will still be able to hit it further than anyone else.  I don't know how to fix it though other than similar comments re more penal rough etc.

It's not that I object to him hitting it further than anyone else, it's more that because now everyone hits it so far, the courses have to be so long and aren't the challenge in the way they once were, so a lot of the classics are considered too short for top level golf.

Let's be honest, the old course is too short and is only really a challenge if the weather is bad.

I know in javelin, the changed it because athletes were starting to through out longer than the field. Golf ought to be the same.
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Re: US Masters 2020
« Reply #10 on: Nov 11, 2020, 13:10:42 »
I have come to the conclusion that the only way to stop the current distance gains in the Pro (and maybe elite amateur) game from ruining the game we love is Bifurcation - a different set of equipment rules for them than for us - and the easiest was to do that is a ball that doesn't go as far. Yes the equipment manufacturers would object as we wouldn't want to buy the ball the pros are using, but given a few years we'd all get used to it, and who knows perhaps then we'd buy a ball that is actually the best suited to our individual game rather than the one that's most used on the PGA tour.

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Re: US Masters 2020
« Reply #11 on: Nov 11, 2020, 17:13:33 »
Change the ball if you want by Bryson will still be able to hit it further than anyone else.  I don't know how to fix it though other than similar comments re more penal rough etc.


He might well hit it further Keith but he's not going to send a tournament ball 400 yards through the air if the technology actually prevents that. I seem to recall quite some years ago that Jack Nicklaus was building a short course in the Cayman Islands and they had a ball designed for that specific purpose......see below;

https://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/91452-the-jack-nicklaus-golden-bear-cayman-sig

Not suggesting something quite that extreme here, but a tournament ball that knocked, say, 50-75 yards off most pro drives would make it a far more interesting game, level the field and put an emphasis on shot making and the short game. The equipment manufacturers would hate it, as would the shorter hitters on tour but when great golf courses are being turned into drive and chip courses there is a risk of it ruining the game and something needs to be done in my view.
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Re: US Masters 2020
« Reply #12 on: Nov 11, 2020, 17:26:39 »
I agree Gareth but don't hold much hope.  Especially when your see what the authorities have fiddled with, like anchoring putters.
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Re: US Masters 2020
« Reply #13 on: Nov 11, 2020, 21:12:02 »

He might well hit it further Keith but he's not going to send a tournament ball 400 yards through the air if the technology actually prevents that. I seem to recall quite some years ago that Jack Nicklaus was building a short course in the Cayman Islands and they had a ball designed for that specific purpose......see below;

https://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/91452-the-jack-nicklaus-golden-bear-cayman-sig

Not suggesting something quite that extreme here, but a tournament ball that knocked, say, 50-75 yards off most pro drives would make it a far more interesting game, level the field and put an emphasis on shot making and the short game. The equipment manufacturers would hate it, as would the shorter hitters on tour but when great golf courses are being turned into drive and chip courses there is a risk of it ruining the game and something needs to be done in my view.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was possible to design a ball that's performance dropped in line with the level of compression applied by a golfer....so slower swinging players would find their shots affected by the "reduced performance ball" proportionally less than the musclemen.
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Re: US Masters 2020
« Reply #14 on: Nov 11, 2020, 21:18:09 »
Not sure if it's been posted before but i watched this video a while back. Amazing what just small changes to the dimples can do

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I think they are trying to say buy Titleist for consistency but does show what could be done
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